JS: Webster Tarpley has been in the news lately with the Charlie Sheen story on CNN TV. He is a decades-long terrorism expert.
He was on Showbiz Tonight for about a minute last week. At least he got out the name of his book: 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA.
The terrorism issue is overrun this week. They are trying to make it a felony to be an illegal alien. Striking while the iron is hot, the 9/11 issue was the precursor to the Iraq war, the people who hijacked the Republican party, the war was all prepared.
The parties - very little difference between the Dems and the Republicans. The issue that has awakened people is 9/11. Webster is on this network from 3-5 Central on Saturdays.
Good afternoon Mr. Tarpley.
WGT: Good afternoon, John and thank you for CNN. Last week I told CNN 15 or 20 minutes worth, including about RBN, and when it got on the cutting room floor -
JS: Yes, the alternative media are eating their lunch. You heard what Rupert Murdoch said last week.
WGT: This may be what AJ Hammer saw last week. Last Monday two interesting events. Story in New York Magazine, not New Yorker or NYT Mag, a separate one, for the literary and cultural elite. Story based on a presentation I made in NYC in January. Lookup nymag.com, Ground Zero Grassy Knoll. Very clever article. It has elements distancing from us but the sheer amount of information that is worked in, very clever propaganda piece in favor of 911 truth in the only way you could get that published. The other thing is the comments by Charlie Sheen that he doesn’t believe official story and wants to have an International Indpendent Truth Commission.
JS. It wasn’t just Americans who died in the WTC.
WGT. International makes it more independent. CNN were going after ratings. People tell me why they didn’t show this or that, but I don’t tell them what to show. Poll showed 83% agree with Sheen. Erica Jong saying Sheen is courageous. Neo- con talk hosts went crazy slandering Charlie Sheen. Jerry Doyle unfortunately too.
JS. I had the distinct pleasure or displeasure of hearing hosts like Sean Hannity and it wasn’t about what Sheen was saying, it was making him the new Hollywood caricature.
WGT. C Sheen has done more to shake this regime and dynasty than the whole democratic party and left gatekeepers in years. The most bang for the buck you get with 9/11 truth
JS. A lot of people have done 911 videos. Like Loose Change, Alex Jones videos. People are calling in complaining that Sheen is not the same cloth as they are. But he is taking a big risk, it could destroy his career. Not just mouthing off because it’s popular. 6 months after 9/11 he went and start studying the facts. I saw the Hannity clip. What about the victims. Yes, you jerk, what about the victims. I quote CNN: “In a sampling of over 50,000 unique visitors, CNN calculated that 83% voting supported Charlie Sheen’s views.”
We’re dealing with an entity that is not known for putting out the truth. What is this telling you?
JS: C. Sheen said it best himself - the worm is turning. Because George Bush decided to rip up our constitution here in the USA.
Clip from CNN: AJ Hammer, WGT: Zogby poll - AJH: most people still blame bin Laden - Sheen: I’m sure i’m being demonized by all the people who do that sort of things
JS: I thought you were on for a whole minute
WGT. No, that was it. Hannity says he has no answers. He blames it on liberals. But a lot is being done by conservative side. I know from my Bush 41 research that the Bushes fear the conservative opposition more because they can break the profile. Then Hannity says what about the victims families. In the NYMag article you see this family survivor saying the 911 Truth movement cares more about them than the 911 commission. I’m just concerned that we can keep this momentum going. Next Saturday on RBN I have Andreas von Buelow, former German government minister and 9/11 author. Also on Saturday I will be in Seattle at the University together with Barrie Zwicker. Friday evening I will be at Third Place books. I’m trying to get C-span book TV to cover that. If you want to try and keep the ball rolling send an e-mail to C-Span (at Booktv@c-span.org) to tell them to tape this.
JS. How did you get on Charlie Rose show?
WGT. That was back when he was doing the news. Not the Charlie Rose steely neocon now.
JS. Politics is what happens in the absence of practicing the constitution. We got homeland security, patriot act, our rights that Bush wants to give away.
WGT. Very troubling the climate of authoritarianism and foreign aggression. This can only take place in a climate of passivity, apathy, and left gatekeepers.
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JS: Why was 9/11 so important? We’ve covered a lot. Here is what Maj. Gen. Eric Haney said - Tommy Franks knew Iraq war was strategically wrong. We probably fomented a war between Shias and Shiites. A lot of dynamics behind that. Patriot Act, war in Iraq and Afghanistan, plan for war in Iran. Halliburton. A real danger of blowing up. I see some problems that we’re not going to be focusing on the criminals that pulled this off.
WGT. When the controlled media change their line you have to wonder why. Last two years Jimmy Walter was trying valiantly and all he got was slanders. My best guess is one faction of the ruling financial elite who run the neocons, Bush and the invisible government, the military intelligence, that they have to remind Bush-Cheney that they can be brought down at any moment. You have the banking elite in NY and London who are alarmed. When Bush said the Iraq war will continue into 2009 that appalled some financiers and Republicans. They have already done everything they wanted, divided the country. Fear of being dragged into Iran. Problems on the dollar. Ironically the 20th was supposed to be the day the Iranian Oil Bourse opened. The Emirates are talking of taking 10% of their reserves out of the dollar into the Euro. To keep the dollar going they have to borrow 2 or $3 billion per day - if you have all that going out, it’s difficult. Parallel to the collapse of Bretton Woods and a military defeat in Vietnam leading to Watergate for Nixon. Only Bush is in much deeper trouble. Those financiers would like a limited hangout. It’s up to us to push it forward with some kind of unstoppable momentum.
JS. Maj. Eric Haney also said in this interview our credibility is now at zero. American public went along with this. Of course they were fooled into this, they voted for Bush the second time out of fear. What the globalists need to do for their world government - the English were in the Middle East - those borders are handiwork of the British - here another empire going into the Middle East - the globalists need to destroy the credibility of the US. As a country, as a people, the US has to be brought down. Illegal invasion of immigrants - 40 million now. They have their own radio, newspapers, call 800 and they ask if you want it Spanish or Englihs. The US has to be driven into the ground for the globalists to get their way.
WGT. First problem is what you have is the regime of the September criminals. They are still there. The only way to get them is through the 911 issue. Bush’s answer to everything seems to be 9/11. So this is the royal road, the one point where you jeopardize the system, even down to the plutocratic, oligarchical financier rule is now based on terror. I was at the Moussaoui trial with Fetzer and Phil Berg who has the RICO suit against Bush. I tried to point out to people there that Moussaoui is a patsy, a psychotic, he ought to be in a mental institution. He’s much less able than Oswald to understand what’s being done to him. Now, contradicting everything his lawyers did the last 4 years, he is saying it was his role to fly a plane into the White House, and he says his partner on this was Richard Reed. These two psychotics, we are expected to believe, would have been able to fly planes into the towers. He has put himself in the death chair. He’s been told something by his case officer and he has believed it.
The two parties are both bankrupt. Look at the periods in US history, we are due for a party realignment. We can hope that by pushing forward on 9/11 we can break into real politics and not puppets of this or that financier group.
JS. That’s the point. You see Sean Hannity complaining about the Democrats. They have spent a number of years, PNAC boys, into setting up this left-right paradigm in America. After the fact, after 911 that paradigm is still running but there is so much info out there, it doesn’t matter which party you vote for, we have been manipulated by both sides. We are going down in flames.
WGT. We are on the verge of possibly a great devaluation, the agony of the imperial dollar, I would be in favor of a republic dollar. The outcome is unpredictable. I also have to focus on the problem of the left gatekeepers. We could have expected that leftists would have been quicker at negating the propaganda. Look at Chomsky, Amy Goodman, Michael Moore, all posturing that they are so anti-Bush and anti-war, they failed the public in the most serious way. They should have led the charge. They say Bush was a liar before and after 9/11 but in some mysterious way he told the truth in September, that window where he told us about bin Laden. Or the FBI, the bunglers, Waco, but on 9/11 they are believed.
JS. Look who is funding Democracy.Now. We don’t get any such funding.
WGT. The Ford Foundation grants haven’t been coming in (laughs)
JS. Going after even Alex Jones for having Sheen on the air.
WGT. To get a majority of skeptics on 911 we have to turn around a lot of people who are still prejudiced. Sheen was in a movie called Shatter the Conspiracy which had some fantastic elements. There is a rogue network that wanted to assassinate the President.
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